Universal library

[kurwjan]

I think I should put it here (bc this forum thing is part of the org, not the lanis-mobile project)

My (tiny) problem

Always rewriting the same lanis scraping shit in every languages is kinda dumb. I want to have a fully implemented JavaScript and Python library but it's double the work. So what if we write it in one language and make interfaces for it in other languages?

Solution

We need a programming language which compiles to a C-like library but is also not hostile to the existence of the human species (Rust programmers are from some distant type 3 alien civilization) and I think Go is the way to go.

I've heard its fast to write like Python but hasn't the same bullshit as Python and it's also easy enough for intermediate programmers bc there exists also Pointers(?) (that means it's not so safe as Rust but it also has a garbage collector) so not for beginners.

Here's a link how to use Go in various languages: https://github.com/vladimirvivien/go-cshared-examples but without nice interfaces you're practically raw-dogging a C library in another language.
So you can use it theoretically in C, C++, Rust, Zig, Python, JavaScript runtimes (in WebAssembly maybe vanilla? would be funny), Java, Ruby, Kotlin, Dart, C#, PHP and more.

You could also do the same thing with Rust. It has a lot of advantages like full safety (and speed but it isn't so important here) but it's a hard language. This also shouldn't replace the Rust library (bc of full safety for other Rust projects, right? idk) and lanis-mobile "internal" library.

I'll look into that, looks interesting bc I've never done something like this. Number of people which use a lanis python/javascript library in the end? Probably not many.

[Rajala1404]

You can compile Rust code to a C like library

[kurwjan]

You could also do the same thing with Rust...

Go is just easier and because of that it could be more accessible.

[Rajala1404]

You could also do the same thing with Rust...

Oh I didn't see.
But rust is not a hard language. I think C is way harder also rust libraries would be perfect for this because you can compile them directly into .so (Linux / Android) .dynlib (darwin) and .dll (Windows). Also once you get used to rust it's not that hard (as long you don't do low-level stuff).

In rust it's also way less likely for bugs once the compiler approved your bs. And there is no Null.

Also RustRover (Jetbrains Rust IDE) is free for even private use while GoLand costs 117€ for Individuals

[kurwjan]

you can compile them directly into .so (Linux / Android) .dynlib (darwin) and .dll (Windows)

like Go

I think C is way harder

I mean you aren't writing C in the end. The compiled library just works in that way. And I think a Rust library would also work like that.

you get used to rust it's not that hard

Yeah idk, I think a language like Go is still more accessible in the end bc it's a fuck ton faster to learn. I mean you say it "you get used to"

In rust it's also way less likely for bugs once the compiler approved your bs. And there is no Null.

I can't say anything against that but this also makes the language harder.

Also RustRover (Jetbrains Rust IDE) is free for even private use while GoLand costs 117€ for Individuals.

I mean there is VSCode and a lot of people use it.
edit: students can get it free.

[alessioC42]

Just so we are on the same hook there: I will not replace the Dart code with some package.

[Rajala1404]

That's not our goal. So no worries

[kurwjan]

Yup

[Rajala1404]

Rust is not complicated. With references to go vs rust code
https://rust-on-nails.com/blog/rust-complicated/