Chancery style should be the default for script math alpahebt

[khaledhosny]

Currently the default is the roundhand style, which is to flourish and does not work well wit the rest of Noto Sans Math:

The chancery style seems to be a better fit:

[apoorvpotnis]

Are there plans to create entirely new roundhand/chancery glyphs from scratch, to match the unmodulated design of Noto Sans? Same question for Fraktur.

For example, Concrete Math OTF uses unmodulated design for calligraphic, similar to lxfonts by Claudio Beccari.

For Fraktur, one can take inspiration from Fraktur Modern https://fontmeme.com/fonts/fraktur-modern-font/.

Some unmodulated characters are also present in Free Sans.

[khaledhosny]

I have thought about Fraktur indeed, but no concrete plans, but there are few “modern” Frakturs to take inspiration from. It would make sense for script as well, but also no concrete plans (the existing chancery style is incomplete as well, so either way new glyphs need to be drawn).

[apoorvpotnis]

Is there a way to automatically get the unmodulated design for the Chancery/Script/Fraktur glyphs from the existing ones? I mean is there some feature in some font editor which allows to just make the strokes of the glyph of constant width, with the skeletal form of the design remaining the same?

[apoorvpotnis]

A great sans serif (it has small serifs) math font which has both calligraphic and Fraktur letters is GFS Neohellenic (Link on CTAN: https://ctan.org/pkg/gfsneohellenicmath). The Fraktur is in blackletter style.

[apoorvpotnis]

One more possible source of insipiration is fonts provided by Wolfram Mathematica. They contain a lot of math symbols (probably the whole unicode range), including Script, Gothic (Fraktur) and Doublestruck, in both the normal and bold weights, in styles compatible with Times, Courier and Helvetica. I am attaching here two pdf files which showcase all the letters in the MathematicaSans and the MathematicaSans-Bold fonts, compatible with Helvetica.

MathematicaSans-Bold.pdf
MathematicaSans.pdf

[Firestar-Reimu]

I like the GFS Neohellenic Fraktur more than Mathematica Sans

as the GFS fraktur is more "fraktur-ic"

PS: where to install the Mathematica Fonts? Is it open-source?

[apoorvpotnis]

GFS NeoHellenic Fraktur is indeed beautiful, but unfortunately, it doesn't have a lowercase Fraktur. And there's no possibility of creating a lowercase Fraktur by the original designer.

The Mathematica fonts are unfortunately not open source. I got them from the Fonts directory in my Mathematica 14.1 installation. Also, note that the Mathematica fonts contain just the glyphs, not a MATH table.