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Maybe a croncert bot in the Fediverse? |
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In fact I've been wondering about events in the Fediverse in general. Venues seem to like using things like Instagram and FB for their events, why not attempt to liberate that stuff? |
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Are you talking about motivating venues to start using the Fediverse or, as you mention in one of the other comments, make concertcloud known via another channel? |
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A little bit of both I think. Somebody has to lure them away from Meta, which is trying to establish some kind of monopoly. |
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Meanwhile expect new Basel and Berlin venues ... ;) |
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Awesome, thanks! I'll also have to dedicate some time to this project again. Probably gonna fix some configs that broke due to website changes. |
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@jakopako, do you have a Fediverse presence? Maybe there should be an official Croncert account in some Mastodon instance or the other. We have https://tooting.ch here in Switzerland to start with. |
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I am @[email protected] among other identities. |
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Hey @MarkJaroski thanks for taking the time to comment on this issue! The Fediverse might indeed be a good channel for croncert (or concertcloud.live. I renamed it at some point because no one seemed to quite understand or could remember croncert). I'm not really a social media person though so I don't have a Fediverse presence. But if you want to have a go at creating such an account, feel free! |
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Is there some way to make a URL for a particular search setting? |
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Unfortunately not yet.. but there is an issue 😅 jakopako/croncert-web#38 |
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This has been fixed, btw |
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Awesome initiative! |
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So, since individual events in the API do not (yet) have a unique ID I think I'll do something like this: event JSON | cannonical representation | hash And then store the hashes somewhere, say in a hashes.txt file (to allow this to be deployed as a GitHub action). Then, to avoid reposting an event I can just grep the hashes.txt file. This will have the useful side effect of reposting an event which has changed. |
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Sounds good. At some point I'll definitely improve the api and how events are being written to the api. Currently, the mechanism is rather stupid im order to make sure that there won't be duplicates in case the scraped data is not 'clean' ( eg the title of an event suddenly changes slightly bit it's still the same event). Basically, what happens is that all the future events in the database are deleted before they're being inserted again. So the internal DB id for an event changes every time the scraper runs. I'll definitely improve this at some point. Anyways, looking forward to your bot! |
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Here's a first test of what these things are likely to look like: https://tooting.ch/@concertcloud/111291151031712649 and |
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@jakopako have you seen this? https://docs.joinmobilizon.org/contribute/graphql_api/ And this? https://mobilisons.ch/ |
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Interesting, haven't heard of this before. I'll have to check this out in more detail. |
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The admin of tooting.ch is encouraging me to dump events from the concertcloud.live API into Mobilisons, but I'm wondering if their API might actually be a reasonable target for the scrapers in the first place. ... |
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I see. Mobilisons.ch had interpreted the date correctly, but since I didn't give it a timezone it used the one from the date, which was UTC. |
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It wouldn't be a bad idea, I think, to expose the TZ data from the scraper in the API. There are some areas which span two timezones. For instance if you extend Chicagoland to North Bend and Perdue it crosses the EST/CST boundary. That's an extreme example of course. |
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You're right, it's a good idea to expose the TZ data. Haven't thought of this yet since my only use case was people requesting data through the browser where the timezone is the current user's timezone. I'll make an issue in https://github.com/jakopako/event-api |
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FYI: I've started loading all events from Suisse Romande. https://mobilisons.ch/@concert_cloud_switzerland/events?page=1 |
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Very cool! Did you solve the image problem? |
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I wouldn't really call it solved.
What I decided to do was to take whatever open graph URL was offered as
canonical so long as it exists, and then to take the biggest image on the
sub-page for the event.
In short, it works most of the time. I'd rather have it in the Concert
Cloud data.
But anyway, it's coming along.
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Nice! Btw, the imageUrl field is supported now by the event api. |
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I should mention that I'm in Neuchatel today meeting with somebody from Fairsocial.net. We should organise a bigger meetup at some point. |
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This discussion is meant to collect a bunch of thoughts concerning the question in the title and on top of that figure out ways of assessing whether the entire project even makes sense in the sense of 'do people even need such a website?'
Actually, the most important question is probably whether people even need such a website. Or are there enough other websites that provide the information that people need? Does this website/project provide extra value that no other website provides? What are people's preferred ways of finding good concerts? I anyone even interested in finding new venues? Or does everyone rather go to known venues or follow suggestions received from friends etc.?
Let's say there is a need for such a website, then how do we find contributors? The group of people most likely to contribute is probably somewhere in the intersection between people that like music (and are especially curious to find new music / venues) and people that have sufficient IT skills to add events to the concert database by extending the configuration file in this repository. How does this group of people find out about this project?
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