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Update lesson to work with google sheets #97
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Yes, agreed that Google Sheets may be a better alternative to LibreOffice. For data validation, Google Sheets also has more functionality. |
I like this suggestion @colinquirk, and thanks for your patience! I agree with @angela-li that it would be perhaps preferred over LibreOffice. However, I'm not in a place to do the makeover myself. Is this something you would like to contribute to, @colinquirk ? |
Sorry, I don't think I'll be able to take this on. Maybe a new instructor will be interested in taking a shot. |
No worries @colinquirk ! |
Has anyone yet tried running through the material to at least determine at which points Google Sheets users would have to do something different? |
not that I am aware of, @kerchner! |
Having taught this lesson last week with Excel, I just ran through the demonstrations and exercises using Google Sheets. With one exception -- in the Data Validation lesson -- the functionality in Sheets tracks closely to Excel for this content. See my summary below:
In summary, I think Sheets would probably be a viable option for those without access to Excel. (And although this topic doesn't come up in the Lessons, I have found in my own work that Sheets can be easier to work with than Excel when importing CSV data from other sources. Excel, for instance, tends to make assumptions about certain data types -- e.g., dates and long integers -- that can prove problematic if you don't correct for them on input. Sheets's type system seems a bit more flexible in this respect.) (This comment submitted as part of the Carpentries Instructor Training Checkout process.) |
thanks so much @dolsysmith - this is wonderful feedback! It looks like moving forward on a Google Sheets version of this is a viable option. |
Made a pull request for a version using LibreOffice #121 . LibreOffice is also available as a cloud version through Collabora Office. Onlyoffice is also available in the cloud, but the data validation section would need to be changed for this. WPS Office has an online version that at present is free to use and would allow for minimal additions to the validation section. |
If help is still needed to update the lesson to work with google sheets I am happy to assist with that. |
Copying feedback received on Slack from @froggleston on data privacy and cloud services here in case people want to work on this issue:
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Thinking about the learning objectives of this workshop, they transcend any particular spreadsheet program, so if someone later has data that requires a more secure environment, they will easily be able to apply what they learned in this lesson to a different program. Google Sheets, equally accessible to everyone, removes the software setup barrier for Carpentries lesson participants, and could result in all participants being in the exact same program. In my opinion that pedagogical benefit far outweighs any future concerns about working with sensitive data outside of the workshop - where, again, the lessons learned from the workshop could be applied in a different spreadsheet program. |
It's not clear to me if this lesson would work with google sheets out of the box, but considering there is a very small cost to getting google sheets working on your personal machine, I think it would be a nice alternative to libreoffice which has known issues reported in the lesson (e.g. different delimiters).
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