diff --git a/Assets/defctrl.json b/Assets/defctrl.json
index 35d4b3a326..92467a990d 100644
--- a/Assets/defctrl.json
+++ b/Assets/defctrl.json
@@ -129,7 +129,7 @@
 			"ZR": "R, J1 B8, X1 RightTrigger",
 			"Select": "Space, J1 B9, X1 Back",
 			"Start": "Enter, J1 B10, X1 Start",
-			"Touch": "WMouse L",
+			"Touch": "WMouse L, X1 Touchpad",
 			"Tilt": "WMouse R",
 		},
 		"NDS Controller": {
@@ -145,7 +145,7 @@
 			"R": "E, J1 B6, X1 RightShoulder",
 			"Select": "Space, J1 B9, X1 Back",
 			"Start": "Enter, J1 B10, X1 Start",
-			"Touch": "WMouse L",
+			"Touch": "WMouse L, X1 Touchpad",
 			"Microphone": "M"
 		},
 		"Atari 2600 Basic Controller": {
diff --git a/src/BizHawk.Bizware.Input/SDL2/SDL2Gamepad.cs b/src/BizHawk.Bizware.Input/SDL2/SDL2Gamepad.cs
index 34b92b0bdc..6fceb3b8ac 100644
--- a/src/BizHawk.Bizware.Input/SDL2/SDL2Gamepad.cs
+++ b/src/BizHawk.Bizware.Input/SDL2/SDL2Gamepad.cs
@@ -294,7 +294,9 @@ private SDL2Gamepad(int index)
 					("RightTrigger", Conv(SDL_GameControllerGetAxis(Opaque, SDL_GameControllerAxis.SDL_CONTROLLER_AXIS_TRIGGERRIGHT)))
 				];
 
-				static int TouchConv(float num) => (int)((num * 2.0f - 1.0f) * 10000.0f);
+				// note: this mimics the mouse conversion in MainForm
+				// also, don't try to "correct" the Y axis here, -/+ for u/d is how mouse does it, so that should be used here
+				static int TouchConv(float num) => (int)((num * 20000) - 10000);
 				var numTouchpads = SDL_GameControllerGetNumTouchpads(Opaque);
 				if (numTouchpads == 1)
 				{
@@ -305,7 +307,7 @@ private SDL2Gamepad(int index)
 					if (state != 0)
 					{
 						values.Add(("TouchpadX", TouchConv(x)));
-						values.Add(("TouchpadY", -TouchConv(y)));
+						values.Add(("TouchpadY", TouchConv(y)));
 					}
 					else
 					{
@@ -321,7 +323,7 @@ private SDL2Gamepad(int index)
 						if (state != 0)
 						{
 							values.Add(($"Touchpad{i}X", TouchConv(x)));
-							values.Add(($"Touchpad{i}Y", -TouchConv(y)));
+							values.Add(($"Touchpad{i}Y", TouchConv(y)));
 						}
 						else
 						{