From 8c8c02de1a2a7de9e1ac4ca0e51243799a26b130 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Michel Jouvin Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2024 15:39:43 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] Add minutes for December 5 Coordination --- .../_posts/2024/2024-12-05-coordination.md | 147 ++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 147 insertions(+) create mode 100644 organization/_posts/2024/2024-12-05-coordination.md diff --git a/organization/_posts/2024/2024-12-05-coordination.md b/organization/_posts/2024/2024-12-05-coordination.md new file mode 100644 index 000000000..44dfe101d --- /dev/null +++ b/organization/_posts/2024/2024-12-05-coordination.md @@ -0,0 +1,147 @@ +--- +title: "HSF Coordination Meeting #279, 5 December 2024" +layout: plain_toc +--- + +## Attending + +Present/Contributing: Graeme Stewart, Michel Jouvin, Patrick Gartung, Eduardo Rodrigues, Joseph Osborn, Torre Wenaus, Stefan Roiser, Claire Antel, Sapta Battacharya, Alex Moreno, Krzysztof Genser, Tommaso Lari, Pere Mato + +Apologies/Contributing: Alexander Held + +## News, general matters, announcements + +### European Strategy Update (ESPPU) + +We have had four of the meetings to gather inputs with the community: + +- Detector simulation +- Reconstruction and Software Triggers +- Training and Careers +- Generators (met on Nov 15th) + +Data Analysis group meeting will be [Dec. 16](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1486671/), announcement to follow shortly. + +*Should we make a specific call for further inputs now? Contact conveners?* + +- Yes. + +Contact made with all the LHC experiments plus DUNE and Belle II. Generally they seem well disposed to signing the document. + +#### Preparing the Draft + +Schedule is to have a draft ready in January. Because of the extra time needed by the experiments to endorse, we would like to target 17 January for this to be ready. + +Suggestion: as we expect a lot of activity in terms of comments we begin this as a Google Doc. (The intention would be to finalise as LaTeX.) + +- Agreed on both points. + +### HSF Seminar Series and Compute Accelerator Forum + +[Seminar Indico Category](https://indico.cern.ch/category/18810/). +[Compute & Accelerator Forum Category](https://indico.cern.ch/category/12741/) + +Third HSF seminar took place last week: Event Generation on GPUs + +Next scheduled seminar dates are: + +- 29 January: no topic identified yet, any volunteer? + - Sapta: Future colliders (including Key4Hep, 1 detector) +- 19 February: Verrou, floating point stability check +- 26 February: 4D reconstruction +- 26 March: EPPSU + +Other experiments? Einstein telescope / GW Low Latency analysis ? Can discuss with Paul. + +We are discussing how to optimise organisation of the events - concrete proposal to follo after an SG discussion. + +### Advisory Group + +Date of the first AG meeting is not yet set. Graeme will send around a Newdle before the end of the year (target end of January). Setting up mailing list now. + +### HSF Affiliated Projects and Software + +*We need to find people to help do these reviews.* They are fairly lightweight and should not take a lot of time - we are checking usefulness and impact in the community, as well as software development and project best practices. + +The [NNPDF collaboration](https://github.com/NNPDF) asked more than a month ago to be included - discussions with generator conveners to find an additional reviewer. + +We should also start to approach our previous projects. Volunteers? + +Todo: add on the HSF site a page with the list of affiliated projects. + +## Activity Updates + +Thanks for people who have made their intentions clear, either to stay on or step down. + +We anticipate calls for new conveners in most groups: Data Analysis, Simulation, PyHEP, Reco and SW Triggers, Dev Tools and Packaging, Training, Physics Generators. JuliaHEP is TBD. + +**We are now seeking nominations for these groups.** Please contact [hsf-search-committee@cern.ch](mailto:hsf-search-committee@cern.ch) (currently Benedikt, Claire, Michel, Liz, Graeme, and Paul). + +### Data Analysis + +Announcement for Dec 16 ESPPU to follow shortly: [agenda](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1486671/) + +### Software Training + +We are planning activities for next year, including training events and hackathons, and we hope to have a complete plan by the end of the year-beginning of January + +HSF/IRIS-HEP Software Basics Training - June 18-20, 2025, at CERN + +A date for the [12th HEP C++ Course and Hands-on Training - The Essentials](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1477096/) has been set for the week 10-14 March. + +### Software Tools and Packaging + +Nothing to report. + +### Detector Simulation + +- Sent a reminder to provide ESSPU input in addition to the one provided at the November 22nd meeting; + - Next step would be to start drafting the main points and the text +- Geant4 Technical Forum to be held on [December 12th](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1482839/) + +### Reconstruction and Software Trigger + +[Mini workshop on ESPPU input](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1475492/) +- Had *excellent* speakers giving *excellent* talks. + - Recording available - see agenda (glad we recorded it in the end!) +- Attendance was ~35 people(?) (varied as long 3-hour session). Roughly 50/50 split between ATLAS & LHCb with ~1-2 from CMS, ALICE, ePIC (but key people, e.g. computing coordinators amongst them). + - No one from DUNE & Belle II (we believe?). +- Tried to summarise the main messages and discussion points, [see here!](https://cernbox.cern.ch/external/public/BcwnnBuIKBeQ4rt/HSF_TriggerReco_ESPPU2025.md) +- Also advertised beforehand and during meeting [Google doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qNhQ-IjPAmL2-Mx2tXtDAloPLWFprIt9mToa11iQb9M/edit?tab=t.0) for community input, in particular as not much time for discussion. But doc mostly only used by us (convenors). +- Quick thoughts on some topics that may have not been covered: + - Offline computing: In particular challenges of hetereogenous computing technologies? Main focus was all around trigger, with exception of 4D reco. + - Energy sustainability: Natural common thread throughout _all_ topics though - is this something we can address generally in the HSF document? + - No problem to add a paragraph on this that may be moved in a common section + - Graeme: wider issue of environmental sustainability, it's not just CO2 + + +### PyHEP + +The report to the PSF concerning the sponsorship for the PyHEP 2024 workshop was submitted last week. + +### Physics Generators + +Work done related to ESPPU + +### JuliaHEP + +We are starting to plan the JuliaHEP 2025 workshop. + +--- + +## AOB + +### Next Meeting + +Next meeting will be [16 January](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1477045/) + +- Meeting planned on December 19 is cancelled +- ESSPU work progress will be followed up by email + + +### 2025 Meetings + +[Coordination meeting slots](https://indico.cern.ch/category/7970/) have been booked for 2025 - the usual pattern every two weeks on *odd* weeks of the year. The first meeting next year will be on 16 January 2025. + +Reminder: please [sign up](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z1Z4payCpieOLiVFcC6y9j-KCj71u6xX232LHUgIHfI/edit) for chairing this or one of the future coordination meetings - including 2025! +