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Milk substitute/ Milk analog / Imitation milk #218
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hi, this is actually a turf war but I think that the 3 terms have quite the same meaning (you may rather distinguish between the liquid or dry form) However, I am wandering about the parent term "milk based product analog": is there milk in the products or only milk substitute/analog/imitation? and second, the same questioning applies to "dairy product analog" vs " imitation dairy product" |
we may also add "milk alternative" as a synonym (it will also be a term "meat alternative" synonym for "meat analog" but that's another branch of course, it is for consistency purpose in case of vegan substitution) |
I agree that this can be confusing as to whether it is it a product analog made with milk or the product analog of milk. |
I like the idea of having a "milk analog" (syn. milk substitute, imitation milk) but it having only generic subclasses like "imitation lowfat milk" (so we move existing "soy milk substitute (hypoallergenic)" class out of there. We leave it to Rhiannon's #212 plant milk hierarchy to hold milks by their source derivation. |
2022.11.10 - FoodOn Curation Meeting:Want to avoid conveying a specific "state" in the upper level food product branch.
Want to do the same thing for non-plant milks, making clear in the annotations that the use of "dairy" in "non-dairy" applies to mammalian milk products not just standard cattle.
P.S. Sorry for all the edits email folk - trying to make things more clear. |
Sorry, not sure if these meeting notes are that relevant here. We decided in meeting clearing this up would help us move forward with the substitute/analog/imitation discussion. |
Looks good! My only thought is that non-dairy milk product could be placed under "food by quality" since the general category of "milk" is a substance with loosely a certain quality to it. It could go under "food product by organism", if we allow that cellular (e.g. yeast) agriculture food products can fit there too. Hmm. |
US FDA is in the comment stage for guidance on plant-based milk alternatives (PBMA), but the guidance has more to do with nutrition labeling if the word milk is used. [https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/draft-guidance-industry-labeling-plant-based-milk-alternatives-and-voluntary-nutrient-statements]. The gist seems to be that "milk" can be used for PBMA's. Some highlights: |
In order to avoid confusion with plant-based beverages, the European Court of Justice ruled on June 14, 2017 that the use of the names "milk" and "cheese" is prohibited when associated with plant-based products. However, there is a list of exceptions provided by the regulation. For example, there is an exception in France that allows the use of the term "almond milk" (lait d'amande) and "coconut milk" (lait de coco) due to their traditional uses. |
I thought I'd try this FoodOn position explanation, for feedback, and to enter into FoodOn website content. I can see at least 6 competing camps in this kerfuffle vying for an encompassing or exclusive milk flag.
Any objections to how I used the term "milk" above? :o) FoodOn is serving all these people - we want to provide semantically precise terms for each kind of user, and not to the exclusion of others. Consequently no user group gets to claim the "milk" flag, but through synonymy and subclass labelling we should be able to provide semantic granularity. Now, UBERON did claim the term "milk" to cover "mammalian milk". The proposed hierarchy above basically does "back-room" references to this term, but up front, this hierarchy should work for all our users? We allow "milk" to be qualified by "plant", yeast, etc. to cover substances with a milk-like quality. This favours common-use semantics, but we'll have precise identifiers and component descriptions that cater to each and every community even if the labels aren't universally favoured. |
This is a good point!
Actually, that is the biological truth ;-) |
FoodOn currently has three classes of milk:
Milk substitute
Milk analog
Imitation milk
Some turf war about semantics of what "milk" can refer to has occurred. The FoodOn crew has leaned towards "milk analog" to establish a connection between bovine milk and plant or nut milk. But is there a role for the terms "milk substitute" and "imitation milk" in terms of food composition? Is there a need for indicating vegan substitution, or other taste or functionality objectives. In general, is there a better hierarchy, and can some of these terms be unified?
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